Hey folks,
So we are debating,,,uh,,,Oh,,I think it was Obamacare. That's not really the point. But I asked, "How do you believe such things, when the EVIDENCE, in Black and White, says something completely different." He said "You do not know what you are talking about. This is the way it works." He couldn't be farther from the truth. I gave up because he simply, could not even hear me.
But through this debate, he kept putting down and making fun of Conservatism. I asked him what Conservatism is. He really couldn't answer me. I asked him what Liberalism is. He really could not answer that either. I told him that today's Liberalism is nothing more than a quest for tyranny. Today's Liberals are Socialists, Marxist, and Communists. They do not even stand for Liberalism. He said, "Oh so now there are new and old Liberalism? So what was old Liberalism?" So I told him the truth. Original Liberalism, is, well, Conservatism. With that he threw up his hands and walked away.
I have mentioned this a few times, and some wonder what I'm talking about. I have been talking about how new Liberalism is nothing more than a Quest for Tyranny for years. However, Original Liberalism is not for anything like that. I posted this back on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 Here it is as it appeared back then on the original OPNTalk Blog.
Original Liberalism IS What Conservatism Should Be
New Liberalism is nothing more than a quest for
Tyranny
Hey folks,
So it seems is the New Republican Party. Now I have
been talking about this for years. Back on January 14, 2007 I posted Liberalism Is The Quest For
Tyranny. In it I pointed out the VAST difference between
Original Liberalism and what we have now.
What is Liberalism defined? According to Wikipedia
Liberalism is an ideology, philosophical view, and political tradition which holds that liberty is the primary political value.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment, but the term has taken on different meanings in different time periods (for example now in the United States generally it means new liberalism while in the rest of the world has the meaning of classical liberalism).
Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power (especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.[2] In modern society, liberals favor a liberal democracy with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed.[3]
Many new liberals advocate a greater degree of government interference in the free market, often in the form of anti-discrimination laws, civil service examinations, universal education, and progressive taxation. This philosophy frequently extends to a belief that the government should provide for a degree of general welfare, including benefits for the unemployed, housing for the homeless, and medical care for the sick. Such publicly-funded initiatives and interferences in the market are rejected by modern advocates of classical liberalism, which emphasizes free private enterprise, individual property rights and freedom of contract; classical liberals hold that economic inequality, as arising naturally from competition in the free market, does not justify the violation of private property rights.
Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property.
A broader use of the term liberalism is in the context of liberal democracy (see also constitutionalism). In this sense of the word, it refers to a democracy in which the powers of government are limited and the rights of citizens are legally defined; this applies to nearly all Western democracies, and therefore is not solely associated with liberal parties.
Now lets touch on some of these. The LWL do NOT support personal freedoms, free exchange of thought, nor do they support free speech. Unless you agree with them. If not, they will do EVERYTHING they can to discredit, close minds, and silence the speaker.
They DO want to control the market. They DO want to, in essence, put a cap on how far you can go. Make over a half million dollars a year, you will pay for it. They DO want you to need them. They love social programs that they try to pass off as compassion. They want more control in your lives.
Anti-discrimination laws have become discrimination. Universal education is becoming simple brain washing. Progressive taxation is simply punishment for making it. Religion? I'll get to that in a minute. What about this? "classical liberals hold that economic inequality, as arising naturally from competition in the free market, does not justify the violation of private property rights." Not the new LWL. They have no problem taking your land if it benefits them. They will even give it to another private person for that reason. They call it eminent domain.
Then this statement in the meaning, "Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property." That is the EXACT opposite of what they truly believe. Right to life? Abortion, embryonic stem cell research, I guess that is the same. Right?
They want you to have no other choice than to depend on them. Why do you think that they are so against God? Many see God as the final authority. As well they should. But that would mean someone or something, in their mind, is above them.
What is a Tyrant?
A Tyrant (Latin tyrannus, from Greek τtύ?ρ?αaν?ν?ο?ς? týrannos) possesses absolute power through the people in a state or in an organization: one refers to this mode of rule as a tyranny. In ancient Greece, tyrants were generally aristocrats who had gained power over the others by getting the support of the poor people by giving them land, freeing them from slavery, etc.
Welfare, food stamps, government housing, free education, ETC. Get the point?
Tyranny is micro management and control over every aspect of your life. This is what the Liberals strive for. They envy people like Saddam, Castro, and Ahmadinejad. Absolute power without accountability. They even line up to go visit these people. Praise these people. Even say we should talk to these people. We could learn from them.
It has never been more true than today. This is going
to go long today, but you have to get this. According to Reason.tv's
Nick Gillespie who appeared on Fox News' Freedom Watch with Judge Andrew
Napolitano on Wednesday, September 23, Conservatism is dead. Now I do not
agree with that, but I get his point. I even warned about this on December 17,
2008, when I posted this Is
The USSA
Inevitable?
Little Hitler in Iran. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, Kim Jong-il in North Korea, Putin in Russia, Castro in Cuba, now Obama in America? Is the new USSA, The United Socialist States of America, REALLY inevitable? I really am starting to think that it just might be.
We do not even have to wait for the next thirty days
for Obama to be sworn in. We already know that Barack Hussein Obama TOLD us that
he wants a Socialistic Society. He wants and is putting in place people that can
bring that into being. Now we even have a Climate Czar, if you will. Someone in
the highest office to FORCE you to accept the scam of Global Warming. Someone to
impose oppressive taxation and control over PERSONAL lives in the name of saving
the planet from a threat that is complete BS. It does not exist.
But let's look at the OUTGOING President. Bush has already Nationalized the Banking industry, Housing markets, and is now about to Nationalize the Auto Industry. Of course this is welcomed by Obama and some in the INCOMING Administration. It fits their agenda. Nationalize Healthcare, Education, and even the Oil Companies.
With Bush's head start, Obama will have a much easier time simply continuing down the road of Tyranny. Private business will no longer be Private. It will all work together toward the "Common Good" of all Americans. Individual Freedoms will be reduced to "Level the Playing Field," and the wealth will be spread around. In control of it all, will be a Centralize Government. They will decide what is best for you.
One of the problems is the People. The People are not only allowing this to happen right before our eyes, some are encouraging it. Calling for it. Yes I know that the majority of this Country is still against it, but those in power seem to be for nothing less. So how can this possibly happen here in the greatest Country in the World? Ignorance is one of the most simplistic answers. People just do not know WHAT Socialism is.
As I said before, Hitler could not rise by himself. He had people HELPING him to. Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili {Joseph Stalin} same thing. The Soviet Union would have never been, had not some people WANTED it to be. ONE man, one idea, can do little. They need support. Little Hitler {Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad} is rising right now because there are many helping him. Including some in this very country. Hugo Chavez approved 33 other changes to the constitution.
“We will do what we have to do to approve the constitutional reforms that the president proposes because that is what the people want,” said Iris Varela, a pro-Chavez member of parliament.
Sound familiar? Obama does not like the Constitution. He said that there are too many restriction and it is not conducive to what he wants to do. So? will he change it to make it fit? He could. Chavez also shut down Radio and TV stations. Can you say Fairness Doctrine?
Remember Senator Maxine Waters said this, Thursday 22, 2008, during the show hearing.
"And guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."
She was talking about Oil. But we are seeing this right now with other Industries by Bush. The latest is the Auto Industry. Conservative Republicans implored the White House not to use money from the $700 billion bailout for the financial sector to aid car makers. A leading House Democrat, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said the government should secure veto power over the companies' business decisions as part of any aid.
Congress will not vote on it. They WANT Bush to do it. This way, when they take over, Obama can say, "Hey, Bush appointed this "Car Czar" and put these things in place. We just have to improve on them and continue them in the way Bush's own Press Secretary Dana Perino said, 'We're trying to do something that's responsible.'"
Remember what Campaign for America's Future co-director Roger Hickey said?
“Congressional Conservatives and the President are the culprits who have stood in the way of a new progressive direction for our nation”
“A new progressive direction for our nation” SOCIALISM He came out and said it. Well, it does not look like Bush is standing in the way anymore. It looks more like Bush is leading the way. In about 30 days, there will be no REAL opposition at all in Congress. There may not even be all that much opposition against the PROPAGANDA of the Mainstreme Media, who simple write and report what they are told to.
Is the new USSA inevitable? It just may be.
I hoped you clicked the link and watched the Video of Nick Gillespie talking about how people are fed up with Politics as usual. I hope you got it. More importantly, I hope the Republican Party got it. No folks, I do not believe that Conservatism is dead. But it has NO LEADERS. We need someone to step up and take us back to a time when the Government was run for the people and by the people. Back to a time when it was the American Spirit of the PEOPLE that made us great. Back to a time when the Government was OUT of our daily lives and truly there
to keep us safe and SERVE the People. NOT CONTROL the
People for It's own gain.
Is the USSA inevitable? With Obama and Crew? YES! There is little doubt about that now. But we are not going to defeat this by electing someone else that is just like them. No matter WHAT Party they claim to be from. One thing is for sure though, in all this, we KNOW that the current Administration and Congress ARE on this Quest for Tyranny and the only way to stop them in 2010. VOTE THEM OUT. Let's stop this now and THEN let's send a message, WE NEED A REAL LEADER. We need a Conservative Leader. We need America BACK!
Peter
Sources:
OPNTalk - Liberalism Is The Quest For Tyranny
OPNTalk - Is The USSA Inevitable?
Reason.TV - The Death of Conservatism Freedom Watch Video
Hey folks,
So it seems is the New Republican Party. Now I have
been talking about this for years. Back on January 14, 2007 I posted Liberalism Is The Quest For
Tyranny. In it I pointed out the VAST difference between
Original Liberalism and what we have now.What is Liberalism defined? According to Wikipedia
Liberalism is an ideology, philosophical view, and political tradition which holds that liberty is the primary political value.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment, but the term has taken on different meanings in different time periods (for example now in the United States generally it means new liberalism while in the rest of the world has the meaning of classical liberalism).
Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power (especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.[2] In modern society, liberals favor a liberal democracy with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed.[3]
Many new liberals advocate a greater degree of government interference in the free market, often in the form of anti-discrimination laws, civil service examinations, universal education, and progressive taxation. This philosophy frequently extends to a belief that the government should provide for a degree of general welfare, including benefits for the unemployed, housing for the homeless, and medical care for the sick. Such publicly-funded initiatives and interferences in the market are rejected by modern advocates of classical liberalism, which emphasizes free private enterprise, individual property rights and freedom of contract; classical liberals hold that economic inequality, as arising naturally from competition in the free market, does not justify the violation of private property rights.
Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property.
A broader use of the term liberalism is in the context of liberal democracy (see also constitutionalism). In this sense of the word, it refers to a democracy in which the powers of government are limited and the rights of citizens are legally defined; this applies to nearly all Western democracies, and therefore is not solely associated with liberal parties.
Now lets touch on some of these. The LWL do NOT support personal freedoms, free exchange of thought, nor do they support free speech. Unless you agree with them. If not, they will do EVERYTHING they can to discredit, close minds, and silence the speaker.
They DO want to control the market. They DO want to, in essence, put a cap on how far you can go. Make over a half million dollars a year, you will pay for it. They DO want you to need them. They love social programs that they try to pass off as compassion. They want more control in your lives.
Anti-discrimination laws have become discrimination. Universal education is becoming simple brain washing. Progressive taxation is simply punishment for making it. Religion? I'll get to that in a minute. What about this? "classical liberals hold that economic inequality, as arising naturally from competition in the free market, does not justify the violation of private property rights." Not the new LWL. They have no problem taking your land if it benefits them. They will even give it to another private person for that reason. They call it eminent domain.
Then this statement in the meaning, "Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property." That is the EXACT opposite of what they truly believe. Right to life? Abortion, embryonic stem cell research, I guess that is the same. Right?
They want you to have no other choice than to depend on them. Why do you think that they are so against God? Many see God as the final authority. As well they should. But that would mean someone or something, in their mind, is above them.
What is a Tyrant?
A Tyrant (Latin tyrannus, from Greek τtύ?ρ?αaν?ν?ο?ς? týrannos) possesses absolute power through the people in a state or in an organization: one refers to this mode of rule as a tyranny. In ancient Greece, tyrants were generally aristocrats who had gained power over the others by getting the support of the poor people by giving them land, freeing them from slavery, etc.
Welfare, food stamps, government housing, free education, ETC. Get the point?
Tyranny is micro management and control over every aspect of your life. This is what the Liberals strive for. They envy people like Saddam, Castro, and Ahmadinejad. Absolute power without accountability. They even line up to go visit these people. Praise these people. Even say we should talk to these people. We could learn from them.
It has never been more true than today. This is going
to go long today, but you have to get this. According to Reason.tv's
Nick Gillespie who appeared on Fox News' Freedom Watch with Judge Andrew
Napolitano on Wednesday, September 23, Conservatism is dead. Now I do not
agree with that, but I get his point. I even warned about this on December 17,
2008, when I posted this Is
The USSA
Inevitable?Little Hitler in Iran. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, Kim Jong-il in North Korea, Putin in Russia, Castro in Cuba, now Obama in America? Is the new USSA, The United Socialist States of America, REALLY inevitable? I really am starting to think that it just might be.
We do not even have to wait for the next thirty days
for Obama to be sworn in. We already know that Barack Hussein Obama TOLD us that
he wants a Socialistic Society. He wants and is putting in place people that can
bring that into being. Now we even have a Climate Czar, if you will. Someone in
the highest office to FORCE you to accept the scam of Global Warming. Someone to
impose oppressive taxation and control over PERSONAL lives in the name of saving
the planet from a threat that is complete BS. It does not exist.But let's look at the OUTGOING President. Bush has already Nationalized the Banking industry, Housing markets, and is now about to Nationalize the Auto Industry. Of course this is welcomed by Obama and some in the INCOMING Administration. It fits their agenda. Nationalize Healthcare, Education, and even the Oil Companies.
With Bush's head start, Obama will have a much easier time simply continuing down the road of Tyranny. Private business will no longer be Private. It will all work together toward the "Common Good" of all Americans. Individual Freedoms will be reduced to "Level the Playing Field," and the wealth will be spread around. In control of it all, will be a Centralize Government. They will decide what is best for you.
One of the problems is the People. The People are not only allowing this to happen right before our eyes, some are encouraging it. Calling for it. Yes I know that the majority of this Country is still against it, but those in power seem to be for nothing less. So how can this possibly happen here in the greatest Country in the World? Ignorance is one of the most simplistic answers. People just do not know WHAT Socialism is.
As I said before, Hitler could not rise by himself. He had people HELPING him to. Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili {Joseph Stalin} same thing. The Soviet Union would have never been, had not some people WANTED it to be. ONE man, one idea, can do little. They need support. Little Hitler {Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad} is rising right now because there are many helping him. Including some in this very country. Hugo Chavez approved 33 other changes to the constitution.
“We will do what we have to do to approve the constitutional reforms that the president proposes because that is what the people want,” said Iris Varela, a pro-Chavez member of parliament.
Sound familiar? Obama does not like the Constitution. He said that there are too many restriction and it is not conducive to what he wants to do. So? will he change it to make it fit? He could. Chavez also shut down Radio and TV stations. Can you say Fairness Doctrine?
Remember Senator Maxine Waters said this, Thursday 22, 2008, during the show hearing.
"And guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."
She was talking about Oil. But we are seeing this right now with other Industries by Bush. The latest is the Auto Industry. Conservative Republicans implored the White House not to use money from the $700 billion bailout for the financial sector to aid car makers. A leading House Democrat, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said the government should secure veto power over the companies' business decisions as part of any aid.
Congress will not vote on it. They WANT Bush to do it. This way, when they take over, Obama can say, "Hey, Bush appointed this "Car Czar" and put these things in place. We just have to improve on them and continue them in the way Bush's own Press Secretary Dana Perino said, 'We're trying to do something that's responsible.'"
Remember what Campaign for America's Future co-director Roger Hickey said?
“Congressional Conservatives and the President are the culprits who have stood in the way of a new progressive direction for our nation”
“A new progressive direction for our nation” SOCIALISM He came out and said it. Well, it does not look like Bush is standing in the way anymore. It looks more like Bush is leading the way. In about 30 days, there will be no REAL opposition at all in Congress. There may not even be all that much opposition against the PROPAGANDA of the Mainstreme Media, who simple write and report what they are told to.
Is the new USSA inevitable? It just may be.
I hoped you clicked the link and watched the Video of Nick Gillespie talking about how people are fed up with Politics as usual. I hope you got it. More importantly, I hope the Republican Party got it. No folks, I do not believe that Conservatism is dead. But it has NO LEADERS. We need someone to step up and take us back to a time when the Government was run for the people and by the people. Back to a time when it was the American Spirit of the PEOPLE that made us great. Back to a time when the Government was OUT of our daily lives and truly there
to keep us safe and SERVE the People. NOT CONTROL the
People for It's own gain.Is the USSA inevitable? With Obama and Crew? YES! There is little doubt about that now. But we are not going to defeat this by electing someone else that is just like them. No matter WHAT Party they claim to be from. One thing is for sure though, in all this, we KNOW that the current Administration and Congress ARE on this Quest for Tyranny and the only way to stop them in 2010. VOTE THEM OUT. Let's stop this now and THEN let's send a message, WE NEED A REAL LEADER. We need a Conservative Leader. We need America BACK!
Peter
Sources:
OPNTalk - Liberalism Is The Quest For Tyranny
OPNTalk - Is The USSA Inevitable?
Reason.TV - The Death of Conservatism Freedom Watch Video
Step up they did. It's call the Tea party. 2010 DID send that message. 2012 will complete the cleansing, or it will be the end of America as we know it. America IS at stake here. Make no mistake about it.
Peter
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