Good and Evil, Right and Wrong, God or Man

Remove God, something else takes His place.

Hey folks,

 For the most part, those Americans that love this country, and believe in freedom and the American Dream, all have something in common. They also believe in God. They believe that this country, and they are correct, was founded on Judeo - Christian beliefs.

Some would argue, incorrectly, that the Founding Fathers did not want God in public life. They say that this Country was not founded on Judeo - Christian beliefs. It was. They would say that allowing God in public life is a violation of the "Wall." Well, first off, and yet again, there is no WALL. The phrase was taken from a private letter, not the Constitution. Second, the Amendment they are taking about is to protect the CHURCH. It is Freedom OF not FROM Religion. The founding Fathers put that there because that was the whole reason we left to come here. They wanted to make sure, that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT did not establish a National Religion. In other words, the Church of America. Then through laws, and oppression, FORCE you to worship there.

 But there has been a consorted effort by some in this country to remove Faith and God from Public life. No God in school. Look at our school system. No God on our Money. Money has become SOME people's god. No God in our National Anthem. Remove that little annoying part that says "One nation under God." Forget the part in the Bill or Rights that say we are all given Rights and Freedom by our Creator. Forget the mention of God in other countless historical documents.

But whenever you remove God and morals, something else has to fill that void. The more God and morals are removed from society, the darker society gets. The more crime rises. The "anything goes" mentality, allows ANYTHING to go.

Look at the difference in the Tea Party Rallies and the Occupy Crowds. The Tea Party, come rally, clean up, go home to families, jobs, and Church. Occupy? They come, and stay. They trash the place, waddling in their own disgust. They steal, destroy, and even abuse one another. Rape and assaults were rampant. There are no consequences for your actions, if there is no conviction of what is right and wrong. This is why so many fight to denounce God and anything of faith. No God? No Devil. No Heaven? No Hell. No Sin? No consequences. Do what you will. 

You can clearly see the Moral Decline in this country over the past few years. We removed God and we are reaping what we have sown. So anytime I see something like this next article, it get's me thinking.

(RNS) As skeptics, atheists and humanists prepare to gather for their largest meeting in Las Vegas this weekend, attendance by women is expected to be down significantly.

Officials for The Amazing Meeting, or TAM, said Wednesday (July 11) that women would make up 31 percent of the 1,200 conference attendees, down from 40 percent the year before. A month before the conference, pre-registration was only 18 percent women, organizers said.

Alright, first. Do you know how many people in this country believe in God? Do you know how many people live in your town? 1,200 conference attendees? 1,200? They next time you hear that more and more people are turning atheist, rejecting Religion, God, or, anything Faith Based, think about this. This is their "Amazing Meeting." Like a super bowl of atheism? They have an estimated thousand people showing up? That's it? Anyway, back to the article.

The explanations are many -- the bad economy, that women, as caregivers, are less able to get away, and that more men than women identify as skeptics, whose worldview rejects the supernatural and focuses on science and rationality.

OR? People are getting tired for the whole No God thing, and are seeking and finding, the TRUTH. Just saying? Especially in tough times. Which do you feel is more comforting? You are it. That's all there is. You are born to die. In between, you go to school, work, retire. No plan. No purpose. You just are? OR? There is a loving God that has a plan and a purpose for you and your life. To live life to the fullest, you should seek Him and His plan. But if you are his child, he will never leave you, nor forsake you. So, again, which do you feel to be more comforting?

But in the weeks preceding TAM, another possible explanation has roiled the nontheist community. Online forums have crackled with charges of sexism in TAM’s leadership and calls for the ouster of D.J. Grothe, the male president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, TAM’s organizer. In June, Rebecca Watson, a skeptic blogger and speaker, canceled her TAM appearance because, she said on her blog, she does “not feel welcome or safe.”

Other nontheists -- both male and female -- have shared stories of unwanted sexual attention at nontheist gatherings, including propositions for sex and unwelcome touching. Chatter has ranged from calls for more women to attend nontheist events to personal attacks on prominent female skeptics for discussing harassment. Meanwhile, two more skeptic/feminist bloggers announced they will not attend TAM.

The debate has had two major impacts -- a call for cooler tempers and the immediate implementation of sexual harassment policies by all of the major nontheist organizations, both national and regional.

No one is suggesting that all nontheist events are unsafe for women. But the controversy has members of the nontheist community, which prides itself on its embrace of rational thinking, asking whether they have a sexual harassment problem. And if so, what should be done?

“We are a small movement, so it might be very important for some men and women to find a partner who shares their beliefs,” said Maggie Ardiente, director of development for the American Humanist Association, which recently adopted a sexual harassment policy. “That does not mean sexual attention, when it is clearly rejected, is allowed. We need to be clear that these events are a great way to meet people, but there are appropriate ways to conduct yourselves. There are common-sense ways to address this for both men and women.”

No there isn't. See that's the problem. That's the end result. Whenever someone like me talks about morals, I'm asked Who's? What makes my morals better than anyone else? Why should others be forced to accept "MY" founding belief system. What is right for me, may not be right for all. So live and let live.

The problem is, live and let live, means that you allow anyone to live, anyway, that they chose. In other words, if a guy wants to treat a woman like an object, grab her boobs, rape her, whatever, who are you to say he can't? Anything goes in an anything goes society. Once you start laying down "rules" and setting "regulations" then are you not creating a set of "laws" for others to follow? How then is that different from say the Ten Commandments? Or The Laws of the land. Or a standard Moral Code?

This is not the first time the skeptic community has struggled with sexual harassment charges.

Last year, at another skeptic conference, Watson said she was approached late at night in an elevator by a man she believed was seeking sex. When she blogged about it, the “atheosphere” erupted in comments, both supportive and negative. British biologist Richard Dawkins, the best-selling author of “The God Delusion,” wrote that Watson should “stop whining” and “grow a thicker skin.”

(Laughing} Stop whining and grow thicker skin? See. That guy that approached her in the elevator has a right to these idiots, to act any way he so chooses. Again, anything goes.

The current hullabaloo can be traced to May’s Women in Secularism Conference, a first-of-its-kind gathering about nontheist women. On a panel examining feminism and nontheism, Jennifer McCreight, an atheist blogger, said women speakers at nontheist events warn each other privately about male speakers who make unwanted sexual advances.

“They brought up a concern about harassment at conferences and I was not aware of that problem,” said Ron Lindsay, president of the Center for Inquiry, a humanist-skeptic group that organized the women’s conference. “Maybe I should have been. But once I became aware of that concern it wasn’t that difficult to come to a decision that we should have a policy in place to deal with that.”

CFI unveiled its policy earlier this month. American Atheists, American Humanist Association, and several large regional groups have also announced policies in the last few weeks. Most organizations had sexual harassment policies covering their employees and workplaces, but the new policies are aimed at non-employee attendees at special events.

As these groups and others unveiled their policies, members of the skeptic community asked whether TAM had one in place.

And that’s where things got ugly. In an appeal to assure women that TAM is welcoming and safe, Grothe made comments that upset some in the community. They accused him of underplaying, and even ignoring, reported harassment at past meetings, and of “blaming the victims” of the alleged incidents. Grothe apologized to Watson on her blog, Skepchick.

“I believe strongly that women’s voices need to be taken seriously in the atheist and skeptics movements, that any reports of harassment or assault at atheist and skeptics events need to be taken seriously and recorded, and acted on effectively, and that those who make reports of such harassment shouldn’t ever be blamed for such,” Grothe wrote.

Asked to comment for this story, Grothe said he stood by his online remarks.
Those remarks continue, “I do not deny that there is a problem with sexism at atheist or skeptics conferences, nor any of the accounts blogged about in general terms by women who have attended TAM or similar kinds of events, but I would appreciate if such reports were balanced with an acknowledgment of the great effort the JREF goes to ensuring that TAM is a safe and welcoming environment for women.”

This year, TAM has hired an outside consultant to deal with harassment incidents.

And TAM is notable among nontheist conferences in that roughly half of its speakers are women, including keynote speaker Carol Tavris, a social psychologist. Many skeptic women say they have no plans to abandon the conference or the broader nontheist community.

“We may not be able to ever completely solve misogyny online but we can absolutely do a better job ensuring that our physical events are welcoming and safe spaces for women and minorities than we have been,” said Amy Davis Roth, a longtime skeptic who has helped raise almost $8,000 for grants to send 22 women to this year’s TAM.

“Anti-harassment polices are a good start because it sends the message that event organizers want everyone to feel safe and that harassment will not be tolerated by our community,” she said.

I agree. “Anti-harassment polices are a good start." The only way to combat lawlessness is by Law. The only way to combat Godlessness is by God. The only way to act civilized is to believe in a Moral code of conduct. Sorry you can not see this. Well, I guess you are starting to.
Peter

Sources:

RNS - Do atheists have a sexual harassment problem?
Kimberly Winston